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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-31-2008, 04:44 PM Thread Starter
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Check Your nuts! ... And Bolts

I now have about 960 miles on my Revolt. After reading about some of the others having Axle bolts loose, I decided to check every thing over.
Yesterday I found two Spindle bolts and one steering rod loose. Last week I found two radius rod bolts loose.
After buying bottles of Blue and Red Lock-tight, I now use it on everything. I have pulled each suspension bolt, one at a time, degreased them and re-torqued them, using Red lock-tight.

If this doesn't work, my next step is safety wire.

My riding is on rocky, washboard roads and trails and sand dunes.

I'll let everyone know how it works out.



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Re: Check Your nuts! ... And Bolts

Hello Bear Foot, glad you're tightening everything up BEFORE it falls off !
i have a question for you. I've heard about incorrect front (and maybe rear) suspension geometry, heard it pushes pretty bad in the corners, seen in the videoes how the body rolls to the outside ALOT in hard cornering while carrying the inside front wheel in midair (cool). While all of these seem to be negatives....I wonder, do they detract from the hard cornering driving experience ?
Or maybe taken together they enhance the fun factor at a small price to the maximum performance envelope ? Please give me your thoughts on my questions (and assumptions). I got the Redline
Fever....so I gotta decide, do I Revolt or Riot (different rear suspension, maybe better front end geometry and obviously flatter cornering from what I can tell on you tube and Redline videoes). Thanks, Scotty
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Re: Check Your nuts! ... And Bolts

You know Scotty, I looked at a lot of other machines, in this price range. The main thing I liked about the Revolt was the suspension.
I test drove the Revolt, from Red Rock Rail's at Sand Hollow, just out side of Saint George, Utah. Mike, the owner, stopped me on the Trail into the Dunes and told me to stand on the throttle, when I came to a section of whoops in the trail.
As we approached the whoops, Mike waved me by. There in the trail were 24" deep whoops, for 40 yards. I passed Mike and like I was told to do, I stomped the go pedal. I hit the first one at about 25 mph. As the Revolt accelerated, the ride got smother and I was going around 45 mph. At the other end of the whoops, stopped and waited for the others to catch up. I was laughing because I thought how my Yamaha YFZ 450, with me on it, would have been tossed around like a cork in the ocean. What a RUSH! SOLD right then and there.

Is there room for improvement? Sure there is, but if you look at your starting point, as compared to a RZR or Rhino, it's way ahead.
I've been doing a lot of reading and I think the body roll issue is due to the lack of a anti-sway bar. I haven't done a 4 wheel alignment yet ether. My guess is that the Caster angle will be high and the Camber will be at 0. But the neat thing is, that it's totally adjustable from the Factory. Most other machines are fixed or non adjustable. It's set up to be stable at high speeds.
If you want a rock crawler then the other UTV's would be better.

I also like the fact that I can buy all the rod ends, shocks, bearings, clutch parts, engine parts, and ect., from other sources. All off the shelf items. I find this reassuring in rough economic times. Redline has been great on warranty items.
Fun factor? Wow this is the best toy I've ever had. It loves to be driven fast. I've had mine up to 65 mph!
If your out west, near Utah, Call Mike at Red Rock Rails and go for a test drive. Sand Hollow is open and warm most of the year. TAKE IT OFF ROAD!

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post #4 of 23 (permalink) Old 11-02-2008, 08:15 AM
 
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Re: Check Your nuts! ... And Bolts

Great info, I have owned Utvs,rails,quads, and bikes. I think the weight ratio and suspension is whats stands above the rest. Although I have had problems assoiated with the dealership I bought from. Im working with redline to fix the problems at hand. Shouldnt be long before Im duning again.
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Re: Check Your nuts! ... And Bolts

As for loose bolts, yes I have them also. I have changed my radius arm "studs" to be bolts from the outside. I run a 1/2" grade 8 bolt with about 3/4" of smooth shank. I then use a deformed thread lock nut on the inside of the spindle with loctite! I had to build a little weld on opposite flats of the nut to keep it from turning inside the knuckle of the rear. Works great! And a HELL of a lot stronger than that 3/8's thing that was going on from the factory.

I has also found one front suspension A-arm nut loose (ones with the nylock inserts). Tightened good and tight and haven't had a problem since.

As for the thumb screws on the CVT guard...............those have been nothing but a problem. So I went and dug up some panhead allen drive screws with some oversized washers and attached them with red loctite. Using the allen drive allows me to torque them good and tight and loctite helps hold them. Haven't had an issue since.

Rear axle bearings............yes............have had to snug them up twice with about 350 racing miles on my rig. WE'll see how they go.

I love my Revolt! Only weak point now is cornering. And I'm working on that one. More to come..................

Have fun........and go fast!
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Re: Check Your nuts! ... And Bolts

I went out riding yesterday. Each time I stopped I check the bolts on the suspension. They all seam to be staying put.
I went on a trail, I had not been on before. Probably the worst hill climb I've ever been on. I should have taken a clue from all the four wheelers stopped at the top. It wasn't to bad going down, but coming up was a "Oh S**T" moment! I was trying to steer away from the melon size Granite rocks that covered the hill. The front end would bounce up, at times and all I could see was sky. I kept the tach at 5,000 and just let the Revolt do its thing, grinding and bouncing up the hill.
After I crested the hill I was screaming at the top of lungs. YAH!! In Your Face Hill!
The hill got the last laugh though, I have another bent wheel. I've ordered new Maxxis Big Horns and will be looking for stronger wheels Monday.
I think I'll call it "Big Dollar Hill."

Interesting note:
I have inflated all my tires to 10psi., (in hopes of no more bent wheels, yah right)
The Revolt handled much better and turned much quicker.

Less traction = Better handling?
Try it and see what you think.



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Those stock wheels are paper thin!!!! Just about every time I go out I bend one or destroy one. And I run about 12 psi in the tires just to try to prevent this. Anything at 10psi or lower, I bend a wheel. Above 10psi, though, and I lose a lot of traction. It is a balance.

I am trying to find a wheel sponsor so I can go to heavy duty beadlocks. Until that time............I will keep pounding my weak stockers back into shape.

I have said it before and will say it again...........Redline Revolt are an AWESOME product. But everything can be improved. If I were running sand all day long, I would probably never see any of these problems. But desert racing will ALWAYS find the non-bullet proof parts!
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Re: Check Your nuts! ... And Bolts

Here's the crazy thing ... the stock Revolt wheels are made by Maxxis! How can a company that makes one of the best UTV tires around, (Big Horn) make such a wimpy wheel?
But on the flip side, they are light weight.

I calling OMF today.



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