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King 2.0 coilovers 16 43.24%
Fox 2.0 coilovers 8 21.62%
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post #21 of 60 (permalink) Old 10-25-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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Re: Fox coilovers vs. King coilovers Vs. Elka

Ive been communicating trough e-mail with Sean Kepler from king shocks..
- he mentioned that the typical price for a 2.0 dual rate coilover with reseirvor and with a 7/8 shaft with 12 inch stroke and for the rear would be around $550..... and if you want a compresion adjuster (like the elkas) it will be $85 bucks more...

he mentioned that in order to get started, he will need the shocks to get the dimensions to be able to duplicate them. - im guessing to get the spring rates....

I just noticed that he has (714) telephone area code..... so they should be somewhere around orange county or L.A. maybe if I decide on getting at least the rear shocks for now,I might go and take him my revolt.... or somebody else wants to volunteer?

and if more of you guys are interested, we might get a lower price or something...

but I really need to think it trough and make sure its the best option before I trow in 1k for the rear shocks.... fox shocks hasn't responded back....
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Re: Fox coilovers vs. King coilovers Vs. Elka

in regards to the front.... the price is $490
-and the same thing if you want compresion adjusters its $85 buck more per shock...
if you want them also to be piggy back its $50 bucks more per shock....

tough I dont see the piggy back option being a necesity, you sould just place the reseirvor somewhere secure to the car where it might not get damaged by a flying rock or something...
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Re: Fox coilovers vs. King coilovers Vs. Elka

I have been to the facility at King. It is in Garden Grove. This would be the best solution for your cars. Tell the guy there that there are many guys looking at a new shock pagage for the Revolt and that if there was a tested set up that worked he may sell alot of sets. He may cut you a break on your car to get the set up dialed.

They are pretty cool there. You doing this and proving out the Kings will do everyone wanting to upgrade their shock package a favor.

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Re: Fox coilovers vs. King coilovers Vs. Elka

My fabricator has been building off road race cars for over 30 years. He refuses to let me go with anything but Kings. This works out because they are the cheapest out of all of the top end shocks. The only Foxes that I have owned came with my stock Revolt.

The shocks that you guys will be getting are the pre runner series. Their shocks that go on the real stuff is way more money. Since I have been buying shocks, the Kings have always performed flawlessly. I have a set on my long travel Rhino too and they are also great.

In regards to the effect that the Kings will have on the stock Revolt, you will get every bit as good as performance as with the Elkas if not better. You will also have shocks that were designed for real cars so they won't be working very hard. No fade. No breakage. No overheating.

Here is the bottom line. You would be hard pressed to find anyone to say anything bad about King shocks. Probably the same for Foxes (except for maybe the price). It is all about value and I think that King has everyone beat hands down.

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Re: Fox coilovers vs. King coilovers Vs. Elka

This is a great thread! Way over due. I can't offer an opinion on any of the coil overs except the ELKAS. After buying my XL in february I have been frustrated with the air shocks and looking for a change. I was hoping Four by Nut would come up with something great after all his trial and error but the shocks have their limits. I was able to get a set of ELKAS but was told they weren't fully tested and and might be very stiff. Well they were because the initial tests were done with Damon (he is about 300 lbs) in the desert at high speeds. High speed driving on rough terrain requires a stiff spring set up,( so I'm told, I'm learning alot about shocks lately) whereas woods or trail riding needs a softer set up. Tony at Elka has been sending different springs for front and rear and I have been testing them and giving feedback. So far I have really been impressed with the coilovers. They all but eliminate the bucking associated with the air shocks. With the air shocks there is a trade off of ride height v.s. comfort. The coilovers allow for both at the same time. I'm told that it will be hard to design ONE coilover that will satisfy everybody's type of driving style i.e. desert, woods, short course, etc. I think that is why Redline is relunctant to offer a coilover for the Revolt right now. The Fox air shock could do just that if you were willing to compromise.
Before I ordered the Elkas, I talked to the guys at King and they felt the same as Rickdude about Elka getting into the bigger shocks.They are great atv and utv shocks but they are getting into uncharted waters. King at that time did not have a shock set up for the Revolt and I was looking for a change. King also did not have compression and rebound adjustments and I felt that it might come in handy for different types of riding. They answered all my questions and took the time to educate me about how a shock works.
All in all, I think no matter which company you go with you will be very pleased with coilovers. It's a night and day difference.
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Re: Fox coilovers vs. King coilovers Vs. Elka

so does anybody know how much does a 2.0 (12 inch stroke) king coilover weights? with the coil..... I have found some info but only without the coils.... Im imagining that the coils are the ones that give it the extra weight..... since we were walking about weight... how many puonds more do you guys think one will get if you go with coilovers all around? vs. the stock air shocks....
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Re: Fox coilovers vs. King coilovers Vs. Elka

Off topic kinda but in regards to a Riot and MX racing, I was having trouble dialing in my stock Elka Elites 2 stagers to handle large jumps and not frog bump my arse everytime. I tried the higher compression rating springs, but figure a revalve was in order as well.

I am never comfortable with 30 clicks and running them at 28-30 clicks. Seems that valving should have play both ways if sized right. Maybe 14-20 as a base setting with maybe 23-27 max on a harry track?!

I have been looking up options and I like the King Prerunner's with remote reservoirs and a clicker as an option idea!! I'm aalready thinking I need limit straps to increase my spring torion without raising my ride height(preload).

Can't wait to see the options that come outa this thread......


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