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post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 03-03-2012, 12:58 PM
 
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Re: Max Wattage draw

I agree with bearfoot, a bigger battery will extend our availiable watts.
I went twice a big to a 625cca AGM battery. Twice the cca's in about the same physical size.
Alot of the bigger Harleys use this battery as a replacment. If it will crank up a Harley it should be fine for all our needs.



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So that will fit in the stock location, right?

Where did you pick up yours at?
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So that will fit in the stock location, right?

Where did you pick up yours at?
I'm not sure if it fits in stock location as I relocated mine.
Stock location looks big enough.
Amazon sells them now 15 bucks cheaper.

http://www.amazon.com/Odyssey-PC625-Powersports-Battery/dp/B0000BYEXO


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OK. Thank you.
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I'm waiting for someone to buck up the money and give these batteries a shot on the Redlines

http://www.ballisticparts.com/produc.../batteries.php

I've played with them in the motorcycle shops and they are very light and have very high cranking amps for the size. Just not sure how well they will really do...

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Easy E, Buck up the money is correct.
I priced them on ebay and the one they recommend for a Harley is the 16 cell that runs well over 200 bucks.
I will stick with the proven Odyssey.
It can be mounted anyway except upside down.
You would spend 50-80 for a replacement battery.
Stretching out 91 bucks is well worth it.
The RZR guys run the 925cca Odyssey as a rule with mods. ($175)


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Hello All.
well here is what I have found out.... the batteries in the revolt are the same part # as my old 660 raptor which is 180 cca,,,,,, today I installed a Deka etx20l this battery was able to go into the factory location.... I had to fab up a new battery box because the etx20l is a larger unit here are the specs Length: 6.8 in.
Width: 3.44 in. Total Height: 6.12 in ....... you will need to have the new battery at a slight angle.... the old battery was straight from the front to the rear.. so the rear of the new battery is closer to the engine and the front was closer to the outboard side of the machine this way you get enough clearence for the oil tank and it fits good...... and does not touch the oil tank
I used a long hose clamp and went under the new battery box and around the batteryto secure it ( narrow side ) the deka etx20l has 310 cca and the terminals are actually set up correctly compaired to the old battery
Here is what I found out about lithium ferrous batteries, first off when you go to start the machine when the battery is cold the battery will only crank over about 2 times ,,,this is because the battery needs to heat its self up internaly and this will happen between 2 to 3 times....so what you go through is crank stop wait till it warms crank again wait again till it warms more then crank again and by this time it should start and stay fully loaded this process will take over 5 minutes
I seen this on a you tube video for the lithium ferrous batteries on a harley davidson and was told that this is how they all are
the deka at 6.12 inches tall will be the tallest you will be able to fit under the oil tank

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I saw your battery relocation.

I'm just not a fan of it being up front. In this car.

Mainly because of the gas tank & the front is usually the first point of impact.
impact + sparks + gas fumes = fire

That's how it works with my luck mostly. LOL


I thought of that too. So thats why the battery is wrapped with 3/8" UHMPE plastic and bolted down. I also put on a better bumper.

A cool side affect of adding 12.4 lbs to the front of the car is, it handles a lot better. A little weight to help those front tires find some traction. The Battery I chose is a Interstate Cycle-Tron Plus 310 CCA #FAYTX20HL .



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I agree with bearfoot, a bigger battery will extend our available watts.
I went twice a big to a 625cca AGM battery. Twice the cca's in about the same physical size.
Alot of the bigger Harleys use this battery as a replacement. If it will crank up a Harley it should be fine for all our needs.


A friend of mine uses an Odyssey in his Van's RV airplane. It turns over the 4 cylinder Lycoming engine, without a problem. Glass matt or dry cells work great.
A lot of R&D is going into batteries nowadays. Once the price goes down, so long lead-acid batteries.



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Re: Max Wattage draw

The Evo2 Lithium Ferrous seems like a good alternative according to the motorcycle superstores web reviews. No mention of any of the warm-up process Miker described. 13 reviews and none negative.

Customer Product Reviews for Ballistic EVO2 Battery

I'm sticking with the Odyssey for barely more than a replacement battery. You could probably lay it on its side in the stock location without too much fab work. They blast the similar but overpriced Optima batteries in their description below.

Product Description


ODYSSEY Batteries Powersports Battery features a rugged construction, built to take the constant pounding that comes with the territory, whether that territory is on land, sea, or snow. The ODYSSEY battery can handle it. Packed tightly with pure lead plates, the non-spillable AGM design ODYSSEY battery protects against the shock and vibration that can quickly destroy other batteries. And the pure lead plates mean more power—twice the overall power and three times the life of conventional batteries—up to 400 cycles at 80 percentage depth of discharge. The ODYSSEY battery is the ideal choice for a complete range of powersports applications: motorcycles, ATVs, personal watercraft, snowmobiles, ultralight aircraft and Gyrocopter aircraft. Its construction consists of pure virgin lead plates for maximum surface area and optimized recycling, AGM (absorbed glass mat) design that eliminates acid spills, high conductivity, corrosion-resistant tin-plated brass terminals, high integrity terminal seal, a sealed design resulting in gases recycled internally during operation or charging, a safety relief valve per cell and robust intercell connections to prevent vibration damage. ODYSSEY batteries beat spiral-wound. Compared to spiral-wound batteries of equal size, ODYSSEY batteries pack 15 percentage more plate surface area into the case. Avoiding the dead space between cylinders in six-pack designs means ODYSSEY batteries deliver more power and 40 percentage more reserve capacity.


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Fireball Billet hubs, Holeshot ATR's and Unisteer electric power steering, swaybars and Tatum rack.

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