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post #1 of 3 (permalink) Old 03-29-2010, 08:52 PM Thread Starter
 
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Anyone with ///Airdam clutching

please call me. i have an important bit of info to give you and some insight.

this is NOT a solicitation, please do not call me if you do not have any clutching done to your buggy.

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please call me. i have an important bit of info to give you and some insight.

this is NOT a solicitation, please do not call me if you do not have any clutching done to your buggy.

adam
601-218-9065

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post #2 of 3 (permalink) Old 04-09-2010, 08:45 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: anyone with ///AIRDAM clutching

i have one sring left for any one having belt slip issues. after reviewing two other members secondary clutch the problem we are having IS the secondary clutch not the primary. my work i did allows the primary to close up further pushing the belt lower in the secondary. as the belt gets lower in the secondary the belt is slipping because the spring is not stiff enough to hold adequate pressure against the clutch to the belt to keep the belt from slipping. so i have been replacing the secondary spring with one that has the same initial spring rate but a stiffer more progressive spring that should increase the spring force applied to the belt as the clutch opens further. i have one more spring left if anyone else is having the belt slip issues after my work, there is no need in buying new clutches, it is the secondary spring is too weak. i have one more spring left i can send you that should fix the problem. one member will have his hopefully monday and hopefully we can hear how the new spring works.
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post #3 of 3 (permalink) Old 04-09-2010, 10:50 PM
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Re: anyone with ///AIRDAM clutching

Let me start off with respects for trying to take care of customers with bad experiences. However, I just need to clear my own conscience and say something here...

It will be interesting to see if this fixes things. After receiving several calls from various folks I keyed in on the secondary as well a few weeks back. However, if you merely install a stiffer spring, then you also change the shifting characteristics of the helix as well. The result SHOULD be lugging through the shift range and ultimately not reaching the upper RPM redline in the same distance as before.

After spending a decent amount of time on the phone with various folks I have an opinion about clutch grinding. It is merely a short cut to the proper repair of weights, springs, and helix matching. I would strongly recommend that folks learn to tune their clutches and not shave off metal(integrity) as a short cut. Any decent vehicle weight changes will require a weight and possibly a spring or helix adjustment. any airflow or exhaust modification will require the same as well.

I found this out first hand in the last several days. I learned we will have various water crossings so I raised my intakes @14" plus the 180 degree bend. My air fuel went rich and needed retuned and my weights needed adjustment. Then I added my spare tire carrier and tire and again(60lbs out back), my A/F changed and my weights changed. I'm actually changing helix angles now because my setup requires it. I pulled 136 HP out of Queen Racing engine today with an accuracy of *- 5%, so I retune my clutches and my engine tune hits target. Just what has to be done.

Just be cautious folks!! A short cut is, are, am , was, were, only a shortcut and not a fix. Learning to tune your clutches is the fix, and it will give you everything and more that a short cut will. Just my opinion, they're like a-holes and everyone has one, but just felt I deserved my .02 after spending time sorting out this problem with the customers.

The average joe lookin for a step up may benefit, but for folks lookin to really get true performance, there is no perpetual motion machiine. Sure I have a stake in Team Industries, but I'm not calling Airdams customers for insight into my clutch problems. BTW, glad to help where I can!! There is no valid shortcut, the hard way is the easy way!! That's the first lesson I teach a new service tech who hires on with me........


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