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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-29-2011, 09:23 PM Thread Starter
 
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2010 Revolt Steering Box Issue .HELP!

Hey guys,

I had noticed alot of play in my steering wheel, while I was at Little Sahara with sandracer1 and Jetrench.... It looks like there's is alot of play in my steering box.. When you turn the wheels left or right, the front plate that has the 2 Hiems connected to the box moves up and down alot...That play is being felt in the steering bigtime...


I removed the cover on the Steering box and it looks like the bar that glides back and forth in the grease has some space between the Lid and the bar....Not much, but enough to have the whole thing lift up and as the wheels are turned the top plate is rubbing on the 2 shafts for the Hiems.. There is a small groove being worn into the top of the 2 shafts with the joints..... Sandracer1 had heard of someone putting a thin Spacer in there to avoid this issue.....
At this point I know how to fix it, but the shims need to be on the Moving bar only. If I put a shim under the cover all it does is lift the whole cover up a little higher and the Moving bar still has space.... It's almost like the whole case needs to be plained down just a hair to remove that small space or I have to find a way to just add the shims to the moving bar..... Not sure how to make them stay put.LOL


I'm at a loss..Does anyone have any good ideas?
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Hey guys,

I had noticed alot of play in my steering wheel, while I was at Little Sahara with sandracer1 and Jetrench.... It looks like there's is alot of play in my steering box.. When you turn the wheels left or right, the front plate that has the 2 Hiems connected to the box moves up and down alot...That play is being felt in the steering bigtime...


I removed the cover on the Steering box and it looks like the bar that glides back and forth in the grease has some space between the Lid and the bar....Not much, but enough to have the whole thing lift up and as the wheels are turned the top plate is rubbing on the 2 shafts for the Hiems.. There is a small groove being worn into the top of the 2 shafts with the joints..... Sandracer1 had heard of someone putting a thin Spacer in there to avoid this issue.....
At this point I know how to fix it, but the shims need to be on the Moving bar only. If I put a shim under the cover all it does is lift the whole cover up a little higher and the Moving bar still has space.... It's almost like the whole case needs to be plained down just a hair to remove that small space or I have to find a way to just add the shims to the moving bar..... Not sure how to make them stay put.LOL


I'm at a loss..Does anyone have any good ideas?
This isn't a new problem. There are threads on this forum on methods to reduce the play and prolong the life of the box. These boxes are made to ware out as they are used. I just put in a new one last week. I bought a billet box this time to see if it will last longer. I've tried the shim inside the box method and that got me some more time on the old box but it sure is nice to have a new one. You can buy a new cast box for $120 or a billet for $133.
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Teflon liners - Bearfoots idea ! this way the liner wears instead of the alluminium casing.





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Thanks Mick,

I am still a little confused though... I understand the Shim under the cover, but why did you install Teflon Shim underneath the Moving Bar in the front? If I was to do that, the Heims would be rubbing even more on the Cover and continue to wear a groove in them....


Sounds like a good Plan though.. I think If I did both like you did, it should fix the Play in Mine.(I hope)... How did you attach the Teflon strip to the case in the Front.. JB Weld, Epoxy?

Where can I find some of that Teflon?
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The small lower strip of teflon has an adhesive side, its wafer thin. If you loosen the heim bolts when installing then tighten after the lid is bolted on it all comes together nicely. Re-pack with grease after very ride. The idea is to wear the teflon shims rather then the box. Ive done over 500 miles with the teflon installed & the box still has minimal play. I also tapped 2 bolts in the steering boss for less movement. The steering uni's also have a little movement.
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I think I'm going to use the same idea, but I have found a sheet of stainless steel that has the perfect thickness... I think that will work as good as the Teflon with the grease... I will let everyone know soon... I have two weeks left, before the trip to Little Sahara with Sandracer1 and Jetrench... I'm going to make it work! LOL
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I think I'm going to use the same idea, but I have found a sheet of stainless steel that has the perfect thickness... I think that will work as good as the Teflon with the grease... I will let everyone know soon... I have two weeks left, before the trip to Little Sahara with Sandracer1 and Jetrench... I'm going to make it work! LOL
You really need a material with a low coeffient of friction like Teflon, Delrin, bronze.... The stainless is not a good "bearing" material for this application and could actually cause galling (BAD!).
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I think I'm going to use the same idea, but I have found a sheet of stainless steel that has the perfect thickness... I think that will work as good as the Teflon with the grease... I will let everyone know soon... I have two weeks left, before the trip to Little Sahara with Sandracer1 and Jetrench... I'm going to make it work! LOL
You really need a material with a low coeffient of friction like Teflon, Delrin, bronze.... The stainless is not a good "bearing" material for this application and could actually cause galling (BAD!).
I agree, I used a pc. of thin aluminum for a shim and that even worked pretty good for a year.
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