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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-15-2009, 01:23 PM Thread Starter
 
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Revolt gears look alot like RPM gears

If you look at the gears in the picture, the RPM FNR box gears sure look a lot like the set thats in the Revolt FNR boxs. Now that gets me wondering if Redline uses RPM gears or even have RPM do a cheaper cast gear case for Redline instead of a billet case to hold down manufacturing and consumer cost. HHHmmmmmm........ I have a hard time believing that Redline would go to the cost of having thier own FNR box design and production if there is others already producing something similar. There has got to be some secrets out there about these FNR box's.....
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Re: Revolt gears look alot like RPM gears

Actually, in today's age of machined parts being relatively inexpesive, and the tooling cost of a casting being VERY high, usually the machined parts are more economical for runs under 10,000!

I'm not really sure why Redline decided to produce their own gearbox. But I would strongly believe it is based on existing designs (like RPM and others). But with their own gear ratios and such to better match the engine, weight, and pulley combination.

It's likely that Redline was planning for the long term and decide to invest in tooling to create the castings that they get. Part cost is low but tooling cost is high........but if you spread that over 10,000 or more units, then it really pays off. If you only sell a 1,000 units castings are not nearly as economical.
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Re: Revolt gears look alot like RPM gears

I can assure you from talking to RPM myself that he isn't making Redlines box. Very similar yes, but not connected.


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SHOOT!!! I thought I was on to something...

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It would've been nice!! RPM said that he wouldn't guarantee his gears in a case not his own........ That was about a month ago.


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Re: Revolt gears look alot like RPM gears

Hey guys for the record. I spoke to the GM today at Redline at he assured me that the Redline Gear Boxes are built for them (Proprietary) and they are built in the good ol' USA.

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Re: Revolt gears look alot like RPM gears

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Newbie here. Just joined today as I have done research to Nth degree on the Redlines. Looking to buy very soon. The story on the Redline Revolt and Riot Gear box is from TEAM industries out of Minnesota. I have had several conversations with 2 different guys from them. Long story Short Redline had them build the Boxes, but the Boxes are no longer Made!!! All inventory and even the tooling is gone. I asked about having a few dozen made and the last guy I talked to said they had a minimum Order for tooling of 700 Units!! Not sure where to go for parts from here but could be major expense if the Box grenades or can't be rebuilt.
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Ut-Oh this does not sound good.
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Re: Revolt gears look alot like RPM gears

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Newbie here. Just joined today as I have done research to Nth degree on the Redlines. Looking to buy very soon. The story on the Redline Revolt and Riot Gear box is from TEAM industries out of Minnesota. I have had several conversations with 2 different guys from them. Long story Short Redline had them build the Boxes, but the Boxes are no longer Made!!! All inventory and even the tooling is gone. I asked about having a few dozen made and the last guy I talked to said they had a minimum Order for tooling of 700 Units!! Not sure where to go for parts from here but could be major expense if the Box grenades or can't be rebuilt.
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For the last two years the boxes have been built by another vendor here in the states and it isn't Team. Interesting though, because I am a Team dealer and my factory Rep at Team that I deal with never mentioned to me that they built Redline's gear boxes, but if they did it was in the first two years of production. I am going to quiz him about it.

Also, on a side note for those that are interested, I made contact with a vendor here in Utah that sells conveyor belt parts, bearings, chain and Dodge gear boxes that are used to drive conveyor belt systems in our mines. He knows of a company here in Utah that will make spur cut gears which our gear boxes have. I have arranged to send a set of gears up with him out of an older box that I have the next time he is at our mine site. He is going to take the gears to this company the he deals with and see what he can do for us.

Bearings and seals aren't a problem for the older boxes. I have the seals in stock if someone springs a seal leak. A new style box will bolt into an earlier Revolt and it requires and input shaft snap ring and a the new style "D" shift lever on the back of the gearbox. I can get the new style gear boxes.

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Re: Revolt gears look alot like RPM gears

O.K. Mike so I am clear. I have the 09 Revolt XL with the new style gearbox. I can get a whole gear box but not just the gears? Or am I misunderstanding the post?



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